Talk:Elizabeth Taylor

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Former good article nomineeElizabeth Taylor was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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November 6, 2015Good article nomineeNot listed
In the newsA news item involving this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "In the news" column on March 23, 2011.


Photos[edit]

@TrueHeartSusie3: Although there have only been photos of acting in her career section I thought the (very good) photo would fit to that tragic part about Mike Todd as that picture with its media attention (at Madison Square Garden) could rather be seen as a career aspect and part of a career promotion for her husband than a private photo. Instead I prefered a (quite sweet looking) family photo with her children in the personal life section. --SamWinchester000 (talk) 13:37, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

I think the section would be a bit too crowded with photos if we add a third one... TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 13:52, 27 July 2016 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3

I think there should be more photos of Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton in the Personal Life section. Surela5 (talk) 17:12, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Career decline[edit]

Block evasion by banned User:HarveyCarter
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Surely her career declined in the mid-1960s after "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?"? That film, released in 1966, was her last major hit. (5.81.222.119 (talk) 01:17, 3 April 2018 (UTC))

It depends on what reliable sources say. Wikipedia is not a blog or an opinion piece - it is an aggregator of information - and not just newspapers or books but including online references - published in reliable sources. So it doesn't matter what my or your personal opinions are. Find a source, add the info and the source to the article or mention the info & source on this talkpage. Shearonink (talk) 01:46, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Which of her films were hits after 1966? I can't think of any. (5.81.222.119 (talk) 02:56, 3 April 2018 (UTC))
That's not the point. My opinion and your opinion don't matter in terms of encyclopedic content. Find reliable sources that state this idea and proceed accordingly. Shearonink (talk) 03:40, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
There's always the Taylor/Burton "Taming of the Shrew" which came out in 1967 & "A Little Night Music" - which came out in 1977 - and which won an Academy Award. Not sure what your point is concerning the article which does have an entire subsection with the title of "Career decline (1968-1979)" the first sentence of which starts with "By the late 1960s, Taylor's career was in decline." If you think that the sentence should be "By the mid 1960s..." then have at it - find references/sources that discuss that time in Taylor's career, discuss the various issues in-depth on this talkpage, and gather an editorial consensus from interested editors that doesn't depend on personal opinions. Shearonink (talk) 04:06, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Ancestors[edit]

site:rosamondpress.com "Elizabeth Taylor"

69.181.23.220 (talk) 00:10, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Long lead[edit]

This lead for this article is really long, longer than those of most other film stars and should probably be reduced by between 5 and 10 lines. User:Informed analysis (talk | contribs) 14:02, 4 October 2019

Sterilized / Hysterectomy[edit]

Should her entry mention that her husband, Mike Todd, had her sterilized?

The IMDb entry of her daughter, Liza Todd, mentions this:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0123654/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

As does an Express UK article (spelled sterilised):

https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/237051/How-Elizabeth-Taylor-lived-life-to-the-full

The above article also states that her sterilization led her to adopt her fourth child, Maria.

Neither article mentions if she was given any say in the matter, and husbands back then could unilaterally decide things like this, so she may have been unwillingly sterilized.

It may also be worth noting that hysterectomies have been linked to higher rates of heart disease, which was the cause of Liz Taylor's death, and also back pain (which afflicted Liz Taylor):

https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/hysterectomy-linked-to-increase-in-heart-disease

https://www.hersfoundation.org/2011/03/elizabeth-taylor-was-also-one-in-three-women/ (note that this is a third source mentioning her sterilization)

This page states that her hysterectomy was a decade after Liza Todd's birth -- well after Mike Todd was dead, and also after the adoption of her fourth child, Maria -- but she may have been sterilized first by some method other than hysterectomy at the direction of Mike Todd, then received the hysterectomy a decade later:

https://www.khou.com/article/entertainment/elizabeth-taylor-spent-a-life-in-and-out-of-hospitals/285-320708562 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A601:ACA4:1100:D98F:94DB:6FFD:909 (talk) 05:50, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Point of order: The Express article does not say husband Mike Todd "had her sterilized". It says "Taylor had been sterilised by 1964 after Liza’s difficult birth..." your description strongly implies a lack of agency, and coersion.
Your comment includes a lot of speculation. You wrote she may have been forced. Well, speculation, on the part of RS, can merit a place in articles. But would have to be properly attributed to the RS doing the speculation. Neither my speculation or your speculation belongs in article space.
Coverage of this requires compliance with WP:UNDUE. If RS hardly touch it, it probably merits very little coverage. Geo Swan (talk) 20:39, 28 December 2020 (UTC)